Dating, courting, or going steady? Things not working out the way you had hoped? Stand up on your soap box and let us know whats going on!

Yes dating is a business/customer service. A business mentality is necessary in dating. Most things in life involve a business mentality/relationship.

Therefore a man needs to be willing to sign away his rights to be in a relationship. The doormat act is necessary when dealing with customers as it is with dating women

Thats why I wear a suit & tie on the 1st date. Its my job interview. Shes the customer and therefore its in her hands to hire me. Im the seller.

I would think that women would be more concerned about me standing up for them when someone else attacks them. Its more important for a man to stand up for his girlfriend than standing up TO his girlfriend.

Just like I stand up for my customers in the workplace when another co-worker is acting unprofessional I will stand up for my girlfriend when someone talks bad about her.

I will always take the customers side/girlfriends side over everybody else. If my friends come to me with complaints about her I dont want to hear them.

So yes there is a time to take a stand in the workplace but its standing up to others who are hurting customer service.

I went out with a doormat this week (one that openly admitted it, and I started wondering if it was Chris

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Yes dating is a business/customer service. A business mentality is necessary in dating. Most things in life involve a business mentality/relationship.

This is actually true. When we date, we need to remember to be courteous and pleasant in the same way we would to customers.

Therefore a man needs to be willing to sign away his rights to be in a relationship. The doormat act is necessary when dealing with customers as it is with dating women

No, this part is not true. A man and a woman need to be on their best behavior and treat the other with kindness.

BUT…having said that, we also need to learn to be our normal self around each other. If we cannot be that way, then the person we are dating is not the one for marriage.

Thats why I wear a suit & tie on the 1st date. Its my job interview. Shes the customer and therefore its in her hands to hire me. Im the seller.

True. Yet I dont think you need a suit and tie. There are many job interviews where a suit would be out of place. For instance, if you interviewed to be a construction worker, then a suit would make you appear unqualified.

Part of the problem is that after we get married, we become normal. and if our partner never saw us as normal, then we are marrying a different person than expected.

I would think that women would be more concerned about me standing up for them when someone else attacks them. Its more important for a man to stand up for his girlfriend than standing up TO his girlfriend.

Yes and no. Yet a woman determines how strong her man is by how well he can handle her as well. I let my then GF (now wife) walk all over me at first when we dated…or at least it seemed that way to me. After a breakup and a get back together again, I became myself. Because of this our relationship improved alot.

How can a woman expect her bf to stand up to someone who intimidates her if he cannot even stand up to HER?

I will always take the customers side/girlfriends side over everybody else. If my friends come to me with complaints about her I dont want to hear them.

Loyalty is good, but blind loyalty is dangerous. For example, if your friends tell you that your gf is sleeping around, and you ignore them, then it may lead to a life of pain and turmoil. It would be advisable to listen to those known as your trusted friends when they have some criticisms that are given in obvious concern for your welfare.

So yes there is a time to take a stand in the workplace but its standing up to others who are hurting customer service.

No, because the COMPANY needs to survive, too. Giving away the profits and losing may make one customer happy for the moment, but in the long run you damage the company and the good relationship with the customer.

So it is with a relationship with a woman. Standing up to her when it is necessary may actually be much better for the long term relationship than if you gave in to her.

Im willing to sell my customers my product at a very cheap price.

There is a saying…You get what you pay for.

Therefore a man needs to be willing to sign away his rights to be in a relationship. The doormat act is necessary when dealing with customers as it is with dating women

Thats why I wear a suit & tie on the 1st date. Its my job interview. Shes the customer and therefore its in her hands to hire me. Im the seller.

There are different kinds of customer service. Here you sound like a call centre employee, passively receiving complaints.

If you really want to borrow on customer serive, you should conceive of yourself as a salesman: great salesman arent doormats; they believe in their products. They taunt and tease the undecided customers, making the customer feel that in the end the choice is theirs, but that they might be missing out if they pass on an opportunity.

Dont you think its a tad ridiculous to give out your advice when youre single and dont meet anyone? Do you think maybe, just MAYBE this philosiphy of yours is part of the reason for your lack of success with women?

gee, and all this time I thought we were supposed to start a first date by reciting bitch better have my money from Im Gonna Get You Sucka.

gee, and all this time I thought we were supposed to start a first date by reciting bitch better have my money from Im Gonna Get You Sucka.

You know, much as I hate that kind of thing, Id still warm more to this approach than to Mr Amorouss here…..

The customer is always right. Therefore the woman you date is always right. Never a good idea to tell your girlfriend that shes wrong. That would be like telling the customer they are wrong.

Yes even if your customer is being rude to you do not retaliate or she will create a lot of trouble for you! In this sense yes you would need to put on a doormat act in exchange for quality customer service.

No my customers do not have to pay shipping and handling. This keeps them wanting to come back for more goods. To charge ridiculously expensive fees will drive them away.

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Chris, have you ever seen those books in stores like 100 worst road signs or 50 worst caravan wheels ? I think you should write a book entitled 100 crappy pieces of advice you would make a furtune. Stop giving this sh*t away and sell it.

If the customer is always right, why do you ignore all the women here that say your dating strategy is pathetic?

Suppose weve chosen the wrong god, everytime we got to church were making him madder and madder.

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